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Devonian (1887 D)
20 Jun 15 UTC
1v1 Ladder tournament
I am considering starting a 1v1 ladder tournament and would like to see who would be interested.
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Gramuk (1489 D)
08 Feb 16 UTC
Yes to both.
Gramuk (1489 D)
08 Feb 16 UTC
On a side rules clarification, can someone help me understand rule #6.

6. Time limits may not exceed 3 days per turn, but both players may elect shorter time frames by mutual agreement. If there is no agreement, the time limits will be 36 hours per turn. The player being challenged has the right to know the time limit before deciding to accept or refuse a challenge. (But will still be penalized as indicated below for refusing a challenge) Both sides of the challenge should be started simultaneously.

This rule is unclear as to what occurs when a player A challenges player B to a live game. The first two sentences suggest that the player B can accept the challenge, but then require the time limit to be the default of 3 days. The third and fourth sentences imply that player B must accept the live game or take the declined challenge penalty. We should discuss crisping this rule up.
spyman (1072 D)
08 Feb 16 UTC
I see what you are saying. It is ambiguous.

This line implies that challenged player can decline a live game without penalty:
"If there is no agreement, the time limits will be 36 hours per turn."

But then the following statement implies that the challenge player must accept the challenge including the proposed time limit:
"The player being challenged has the right to know the time limit before deciding to accept or refuse a challenge. (But will still be penalized as indicated below for refusing a challenge)"

I think that the rules intend to imply that that the challenged player must accept a challenge but has the right to decline a shorter time limit than 36 hours.
mouse (1825 D)
08 Feb 16 UTC
My reading was that the 36h default automatically applied if agreement could not be reached about the time.

So an exchange of
A: I challenge B to a map of their choosing with time limit 10 minutes.
B: I accept the challenge, but do not agree to the time limit.
<B creates games with 36h time limits>
would be an entire valid sequence of events.

As to the votes, I'd honestly rather abstain, but since the way voting is structured everything that's not an explicit 'yes' is automatically a 'no' I suppose the ambivalence route is "vote: yes to both".
Devonian (1887 D)
08 Feb 16 UTC
The second part is unnecessary: "The player being challenged has the right to know the time limit before deciding to accept or refuse a challenge. (But will still be penalized as indicated below for refusing a challenge)"

It could have simply said:
6. Time limits may not exceed 3 days per turn, but both players may elect shorter time frames by mutual agreement. If there is no agreement, the time limits will be 36 hours per turn. Both sides of the challenge should be started simultaneously.

Mouse's interpretation would be correct.
Devonian (1887 D)
09 Feb 16 UTC
The votes are coming in slow. So far we have:

spyman yes to both
Bozo yes to both
Gramuk yes to both
I vote yes to both
Xildur (1385 D)
09 Feb 16 UTC
I would agree more to Devonian and Mouse interpretation for above.

And I would vote yes to both amendment.
Devonian (1887 D)
09 Feb 16 UTC
So far we have:

spyman yes to both
Bozo yes to both
Gramuk yes to both
I vote yes to both
Xildur yes to both
Devonian (1887 D)
11 Feb 16 UTC
Please vote.
AKeeFaTheHun (1078 D)
11 Feb 16 UTC
I vote yes to both amendments.
bugzduck (869 D)
16 Feb 16 UTC
I vote yes to both amendment's
Devonian (1887 D)
16 Feb 16 UTC
So far we have:

spyman yes to both
Bozo yes to both
Gramuk yes to both
I vote yes to both
Xildur yes to both
AKeeFaTheHun yes to both
Bugzduck yes to both
LovelyPinkEgg (1257 D)
16 Feb 16 UTC
May I join?

If yes:

Devonian
y2kjbk
DrPrangloss
moosepers
Tricky
ebconvoyking
CoXBoT
mapleleaf
Xildur
goldfinger0303
Morandini
Ender
Maucat
Gunmaster G-9
Veross
Leif_Syverson
DoubleCapitals
chasewith3fleets
JtGS
LovelyPinkEgg

And I vote to both.
Devonian (1887 D)
16 Feb 16 UTC
This is the wrong thread to sign up. This was the initial signup. Please read the rules above, and sign up in the ongoing tournament.
Devonian (1887 D)
16 Feb 16 UTC
Ongoing tournament:
http://vdiplomacy.net/forum.php?threadID=60990#60990
Leif_Syverson (1400 D Mod)
16 Feb 16 UTC
Yes to both
LovelyPinkEgg (1257 D)
17 Feb 16 UTC
Yes I read a rules but I didn't perceive that I must join at ladder page. Thank you
Devonian (1887 D)
17 Feb 16 UTC
No problem.
It wasn't actually in the rules section, I think it was in the discussion part.
Devonian (1887 D)
21 Feb 16 UTC
We still need a few more votes.

spyman yes to both
Bozo yes to both
Gramuk yes to both
I vote yes to both
Xildur yes to both
AKeeFaTheHun yes to both
Bugzduck yes to both
Leif_Syverson Yes to both
bugzduck (869 D)
22 Feb 16 UTC
Yes to both
Devonian (1887 D)
22 Feb 16 UTC
Bugsduck, you must be from Chicago.
Devonian (1887 D)
22 Feb 16 UTC
For this vote, you can only vote once.
AKeeFaTheHun (1078 D)
27 Feb 16 UTC
lol @ Chicago Bugs
Devonian (1887 D)
02 Mar 16 UTC
The vote has been open for one month now, and we still don't have enough to pass it. I will leave it open for 1 more week before closing it.

spyman yes to both
Bozo yes to both
Gramuk yes to both
I vote yes to both
Xildur yes to both
AKeeFaTheHun yes to both
Bugzduck yes to both
Leif_Syverson Yes to both
mouse (1825 D)
02 Mar 16 UTC
I thought I'd voted yes to both?
Devonian (1887 D)
02 Mar 16 UTC
Sorry, I missed it.

spyman yes to both
Bozo yes to both
Gramuk yes to both
I vote yes to both
Xildur yes to both
AKeeFaTheHun yes to both
Bugzduck yes to both
Leif_Syverson Yes to both
Mouse Yes to both
Leif_Syverson (1400 D Mod)
02 Mar 16 UTC
Do we have any inactives on the list, and are we still requiring 12 affirmative votes (9 so far).
Devonian (1887 D)
02 Mar 16 UTC
The inactive players were recently removed and as far as I am aware, we don't have any inactive players anymore.

We have 17 players, 2/3rds would be 11-1/3, so we do still need 12 affirmative votes to have at least 2/3 majority.
Devonian (1887 D)
07 Mar 16 UTC
There is one more day to vote.
Devonian (1887 D)
09 Mar 16 UTC
(+1)
Neither amendment had enough votes to pass. The rules remain as posted below:

Official Rules for 1v1 Ladder Tournament - Complete with revisions to date

1. An initial list of players will be created and ranked based on reverse order of their vdiplomacy points. (in order to require top players to move up rather than simply be at the top)

2. New players that arrive after the start of the tournament automatically are placed last. Players may join at any time. Just add your name and challenge someone.

3. If the list of players is between 2 and 20 players, any player may challenge anyone else on the ladder that is ranked no more than 2 higher or lower than them. If the list is 21 to 30, any player may challenge anyone 3 higher or lower. If the list is 31 to 40, any player may challenge anyone 4 higher or lower, etc. However, you cannot challenge the same person twice in a row, if either player won both games. This is regardless of who initiated the first challenge. You cannot challenge or be challenged by someone who is currently in a challenge match. Players may only be in one challenge match at a time.

4. A challenge is made by a player posting the current ladder ranking, and stating who they are challenging. The challenger may indicate a map that they would like to challenge them on, or indicate that the player being challenged may choose the map. A PM must also be sent to the person who is being challenged. Only one challenge may be made or accepted at a time.

5. Standard victory conditions for the map are assumed, unless both players agree to alternate victory conditions. The victor should post the revised rankings after challenge match is complete.

6. Time limits may not exceed 3 days per turn, but both players may elect shorter time frames by mutual agreement. If there is no agreement, the time limits will be 36 hours per turn. The player being challenged has the right to know the time limit before deciding to accept or refuse a challenge. (But will still be penalized as indicated below for refusing a challenge) Both sides of the challenge should be started simultaneously.

7. A player MAY refuse a challenge with no penalty to either player, if:
a. the challenger picks the map
b. if they are currently in a challenge match
c. or have finished a challenge match where they were challenged (not the challenger) within the past 7 days.
Both players are free to make another challenge, even to each other.

8. However, a player may NOT refuse a challenge where the person being challenged is allowed to choose the map. (Unless 7a, 7b, or 7c apply. See above.) If they do refuse, the penalty is that they are removed from the list. If they desire to return to the tournament, they must re-enter at the bottom of the list. All remaining players move up.

9. The player who was challenged must respond to within 2 weeks or it will be considered a refused challenge. Penalties will apply as if they responded by refusing the challenge.

10. All challenges will be played twice, with each player taking the opposite side.

11. If the lower ranked player has more wins (2-0 or 1-draw), they switch positions in the ranking. They may not play each other until at least one has played another player.

12. If the higher ranked player has more wins (2-0 or 1-draw), there is no change to the ranking. They may not play each other until at least one has played another player.

13. REVISED TO: If the challenge ends in a tie (1-1 or draw-draw), both players must have a rematch, with the other player picking the map. If there is another tie, there is no change to the ranking. Neither player may challenge the other for a period of 2 days."

14. There is no end to the tournament. However, on December 1st, and each annual anniversary, the top ranked player, may claim the title for that year. Challenges initiated and accepted, but not yet finished may be completed.

15. All disputes will moderated by Devonian or his successor(s), as designated by him. All decision by the moderator will be final. Should amendments to the rules be necessary, they may only be proposed by the Moderator, and must be approved by 2/3rds of the participants at the time of the vote.


Recordkeeping:
Per Rule #4, post your challenges to this thread.
Per Rule #5. Post the results of the challenge matches to this thread.Per Rule #2,anyone interested in joining once the tournament starts, should copy all previous participants, add their name to the bottom, and post it to this thread.

NOTE: the correct thread to post challenges and new players is not this thread, but "1v1 Tournament Rules, Rankings, and Challenges" thread


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