Sure. 50 bet it was.

And was it hidden draw votes or public? That's the only other option I need.

There's another thing, too - everyone involved did not get back their points. I got back 15 because I went under my starting 100, though I can assume that most other people have a surplus of points and will need to be manually refunded the 50 they lost.

I'll go ahead and give everyone their points back too (upon PMing me so I can confirm you were in the game, since I don't recall the full list of people). If you got refunded because you went under 100, consider them on the house as a result of the inconvenience.

I *think* it was hidden draw votes, but I need confirmation before I set up the game.

Also, sorry everyone, chatlogs are not recoverable =/

I believe that we've all been marked with 2 "missed phases" as well against our respective reliability ratings.

It seems different people were affected differently. I only gained 1 missed phase and Samj didn't gain any.

I didn't get any additional missed phases either.

In any case, unfortunate that a small bug turned in such a hassle for you Cap. Thanks for taking care of the issue and re-organizing everything. Hope this game will be back on soon as Iran was surely rocking the map.

and here goes my perfect RR. got 3 missed phases....
was saudi btw

only thing difficult for me is that i know i had several unread messages that likely have lots of relevance but i don't know their content ... oh well, shit happens :)

I've set it to HDV. I'll see what I can do about the Reliability Rating implications... We actually have a log of which game every NMR came from so if I can get Oli back it's a really simple fix (just removing all NMRs with that GameID from the database).

Ugh, Captain, so sorry you've got to deal with this. Thanks for trying to fix the Indonesia problem. Really hope the NMR bugs can be resolved accurately, it's one of our most important statistics I think.

Actually i'd like to get back at my statement of not getting an additional NMR - I now suddenly received 1 NMR + 1 CD. This means my RR dropped by 2 full points.

Others might want to check as well if they do have a sudden change in RR after all.

Yeah, how weird. I was not initially hit with an NMR, even half an hour ago, but now I have another NMR and a CD. Zero CDs is a big point of pride for me. Unfortunate how many bugs are pooping up. At least 4 of my NMRs are not real at this point. Bah, not the thread for my whining. I'll be patient.

lol...popping, not pooping. Though I suppose either works, really.

And now my NMR and CD count both ticked up by 1 again. At least we waived the RR requirement for the new game because mine's down to 85.

Hope the issues with NoNMR and NoCd can be sorted out soon, I was just prevented from joining a different game because I "seem to be having trouble keeping up with the orders in the ones you already have."

I was indonesia

Yes I guess we all gained nmr's and cd's. my rr is now 97 and I received my first cd.

Just for the records: I got +1 CD for sure, and maybe one NMR too.
My RR dropped from 99 to 97.

Perhaps a good idea to send a PM if you see one of your neighbours hasn't re-entered the game yet? I assume most people will know the name of the player behind the empire they've had negotiations with. Some people might not pay attention to the forum that much?

With my +1 CD and +2 NMR, my games limit has been enforced, meaning I can no longer join games because I have too many going on for whatever the algorithm is. I'll join the game as soon as this problem has been resolved, or as soon as I take over enough CD'ed games.

From a perfect 100 to 89. :-|

Funny, I hasn't even noticed the game had disappeared!

Someone is gonna have to clean up these unearned NMRs and CDs it sounds like.

"if you enter all holds, it counts as an NMR even if saved"

Oh, that's good to know...

Yup, it's now thrown me a CD and another missed phase on top of the two it already threw me (+ I have two other inaccurate missed phases recently that the mods couldn't figure out that still need correction).

My vDip HoF ranking also just went from 2179 to 1673?

It's reflecting 2179 again, G-Man.

It is, though not on the vDip HoF chart. But maybe that just needs to be recalculated now.

The HoF stuff is unrelated to Furnace, it's Oli attempting to iron out some bugs in the ranking system. Obviously it's not quite done yet.

I have heard that the talent level at VDIP is slipping drastically after the departure of Cypeg and myself. So I have decided to end my sabbatical in the Himalayas studying Sun Tzu's art of war in a Tibetan monk's temple to teach all of you students a higher level of tactical and strategic warfare. And yes, that means all you southern, chicken eating, single tooth, in-breds from below the Mason Dixon line.

If you are up to the challenge and a position is open, I will grace you with my presence in this world war.

Thank You.

Master DEFIANT

What about this CD and the NMRs that were added due to this game and the bug with the site; are these going to be corrected?

Welcome back DEFIANT! I keep saying I am going to take some time... but always end up getting back into tournaments/games like this where the competition is just too good to pass up...