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The Ambassador (1678 D (B) (B))
20 Mar 17 UTC
Fixing the Pirates variant
With the new Lab up and running, as discussed in the DiplomacyGames podcast I'm keen to iron out the bugs in Pirates that people hate...
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Mitomon (920 D)
Mon 17 Apr UTC
Diplomacy: Is Germany Too Weak?
I noticed that Germany is considerably weaker in Diplomacy than it's historical counterpart. In game, Germany can very easily be knocked out by England and France. However, historically Germany was able to fight competently on three separate fronts. Does anybody feel that Germany is a little misrepresented in game?
More importantly, are there any variants that address this?
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gman314 (1016 D)
12 Mar 11 UTC
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Winning
Oli won.
On Imperial Civilization's off-topic thread (link inside), there was a brief stint of Second to Last Person to Post Wins. Now that the thread is closed, Oli won.
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butterhead (961 D)
21 May 12 UTC
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Advertise your NON-live games here!
In an effort to compromise the pro-ads versus anti-ads for games: Post here for your non-live games to cut down on the number of ads but still advertise games. Post game link, WTA or PPSC, and the bet. Note: this doesn't count for special rules games.
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Variant Tournaments
I've really enjoyed playing variant-specific tournaments such as the Known World 15x15 currently underway.
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Strider (1113 D)
Mon 07 PM UTC
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Anzac Day remembrance
Waking for this Anzac Days dawn service reminds me why we should not forget WWI. With threats of agression again escalating has nothing been learnt!
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Mitomon (920 D)
Mon 17 Apr UTC
What is your favorite board game?
I heard you guys like to play Risk.
Unstupid (816 D)
Mon 17 Apr UTC
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Diplomacy/Settlers
Nuclear Surok (1312 D)
Mon 17 Apr UTC
Imperial 2030
Where's my rope?
Murcanic (1441 D)
Mon 17 Apr UTC
Diplomacy and chess
Mitomon (920 D)
Mon 17 Apr UTC
Hadn't heard of imperial before, looms fun to play. Also, not about military conquest : P
FlemGem (1213 D)
Mon 17 Apr UTC
For the People is a dazzling game about the War of the Rebellion.
Rancher (1007 D)
Mon 17 Apr UTC
The old Machiavelli board was cool
mouse (1415 D)
Tue 18 Apr UTC
Power Grid, hands down.
Closely followed by so many area control + action management games it's too much effort to list them all.
Roborally.
G-Man (2100 D)
Tue 18 Apr UTC
Modern Diplomacy. Diplomacy combines some of the best elements of chess, Risk, and poker. What can be better than that?
CoXBoT (1158 D)
Tue 18 Apr UTC
Power grid is awesome. Ticket to ride, also awesome. I loved catan until I quickly realized that the 1st person to place a settlement wins nearly every time.
Ticket to Ride is great. I have another game that few of you have probably heard about. It's called Dread Pirate. It's a lot of fun. Dice rolling combat I'm afraid, but tstill alot of strategy involved.
Mitomon (920 D)
Tue 18 Apr UTC
You guys are great board game connaisseurs.
jason4747 (1010 D)
Tue 18 Apr UTC
Axis and Allies, chess, and Fortress America. And poker. Great games. I'm looking to try Twilight Struggle too. Anyone tried that?
CHESS
mouse (1415 D)
Wed 19 Apr UTC
I also used to quite enjoy Catan, but it really does come down to "who settled both the 9s before it was rolled 4 times in a row" rather than any real skill.
I've tried Twilight Struggle and really didn't like it. Combination of 2-player (can't diplomacise your way to victory if there's only one opponent), cold war (just not an interesting setting for me) and gameplay itself (drawing cards to effect parts of the board) just didn't gel at all.

The Game of Thrones boardgame is great fun (the unknown element in combat is 'which of the known cards in their hand are they going to play?' rather than any element of chance). Dominant Species, Blood Rage and Scythe are all interesting and varied takes on combining area control with action economy (and other elements).

But yeah, at stated earlier, Power Grid is just awesome in general. Only chance is what plants flip, and even that it mostly known before the turn starts and so can be accounted for in all planning for that turn. From there it's all down to out-planning your opponents and sound budgeting.
zurn (904 D)
Wed 19 Apr UTC
I found Catan improved a lot when you use a "dice deck" (gives you average dice results). There's actually an expansion that is a dice deck with some special events on it. Burned out on Catan a long time ago though, but it was my gateway "German game".

Modern Art's a classic. Hannibal: Rome vs Carthage is a great card-driven wargame, and there's a kickstarter for the new edition that just launched (renamed Hannibal & Hamilcar). Napoleon's Triumph is a masterpiece, although tricky to learn. Ra is a nice, simple, quick auction game which pretty much anyone can enjoy. But my all-time favourites (aside from Diplomacy) are actually card games: Race for the Galaxy and Dominion.
Chumbles (1112 D)
Wed 19 Apr UTC
Britannia, Railway Rivals, Kingmaker, Football Strategy and Elephant Parade. Card games, since zurn's mentioned them, Poker, Bridge and Ogallala.
Anyone here like Knightmare chess? It's a cool card twist on chess.
Mikey99 (2198 D)
Wed 19 Apr UTC
Dune is the best boardgame of all time. Fantastically balanced. I liked the old Machiavelli too but impossible these days to get enough people to sit down for 8+ hours. Kingmaker also is up there. I guess I'm showing my age.
zurn (904 D)
Wed 19 Apr UTC
I had some fun with Knightmare chess for a while (got 1 and 2). Queens become *even more* important though, since many cards don't affect them.

Love me some Dune and Britannia. Kingmaker was wacky. Loved assigning those cards to nobles though. And the goofy advanced combat.
For combat and turn based strategy games, I'm still an Avalon Hill fan. ASL, Panzer Blitz/Panzer Leader, and 3M/AH Feudal.
Mikey99 (2198 D)
Thu 20 Apr UTC
Oh yes, Britannia. Missed many lectures because I couldn't tear myself away from a game. But Dune - simply the best.

Zurn, the Warring States variant looks good... any chance of that being considered here? And why has no-one put forward a LoTR map variant? That would be great to try...
Maucat (1943 D)
Thu 20 Apr UTC
ASL, World in Flames, 1830, Advanced Third Reich, Civil War, Republic of Rome, Wooden Ships & Iron Men, Advanced Civilization, Napoleon's last battle, The Guns of August, War & Peace, Terrible Swift Sword, Russian Front, Anzio, Serie Europa... and obviously Diplomacy.
I thought Wooden Ships & Iron Men was just a computer game. There was an AH board game of it too?
Maucat (1943 D)
Thu 20 Apr UTC
Yes the board game WS&IM there was since 1976.
zurn (904 D)
Thu 20 Apr UTC
Thanks Mikey99! I think it might be possible to implement the Warring States rules changes on vdip/webdip, and I'm keen to look into that one day (especially now that there's a running variant lab). I was happy to see the change-army-to-fleet order already implemented for Known World. I was also looking at making some balance changes after the first two playtests; of course I could always run an email game, I'll let you know if that happens. But it's definitely nicer to have it automated on vdip. It results in more playtesting and nice stats breakdowns.

I've had a copy of WS&IM for years and never tried it... I really should, heard great things. Civilization, that's a real classic too, miss playing that.
Smokey Gem (804 D)
Fri 21 Apr UTC
Operation Barbarossa , and most Avalon Hill Games..

Blitzkreig , i aslo enjoyed the board game verion of Mech Warrior with the houses ,
Smokey Gem (804 D)
Fri 21 Apr UTC
I also like original basic D&D ..actually I am tyring to collect the original modules to play. Anyone happen to have any copis laying around ??

I have the basic through to Companion sets,
FlemGem (1213 D)
Fri 21 Apr UTC
I may have played Machiavelli once in college...is it similar to Diplomacy? I'm remembering a Diplomacy-esque game with supply centers, some of which were "cities" and had to be besieged, and ducats as some sort of currency...am I on track at all?
Nuclear Surok (1312 D)
Fri 21 Apr UTC
I heard about Machiavelli,but never played it.Yea,it is kinda similiar to Dip as I remember.
Mitomon (920 D)
Fri 21 Apr UTC
That sounds interesting
Maucat (1943 D)
Fri 21 Apr UTC
Machiavelli has 3 turns for year, cities can have a garrison and must be besieged, Ducato is the currency that you can earn every year from cities and territory you can mantain with it your units, you can bribe or disband with it the enemy's units, you can try to hire an assassin to kill your enemy with it... Really Rinascimento's time in Italy.
Strider (1113 D)
Fri 21 Apr UTC
I use to go to convenrtions for FtF diplomacy in late 80's early 90's. Talk about adrenalin, that was superaddictive! Unlike here though no option for anon games, once you got a reputation takedowns became a problem.
Other games my group played that stood out; Fury of Dracula, Blood Bowl, Civilization (yes the board game) Space Hulk, Escape from Colditz, Talisman +expansions (has been remade)
Now if we are talking D&D, Smokey, I was always into Gamma World. RPGing in the post-apocalyptic future with radiation mutations and aliens and stuff.
El Cremoso (1503 D)
Fri 21 Apr UTC
Acquire is one my faves, even if it does have more a of luck element involved than I typically like.

Reinier Knizia's Samurai is probably my favorite 1x1 or 3 player game. Fantastic strategic tile placement with a small luck element involved.

Alhambra (with some expansions) is a great replayable game for 4-5 players. Involves card drafting, money mgmt and tile placement mechanics.
Chumbles (1112 D)
Fri 21 Apr UTC
I'm sorry, Smokey; I gave my imported copy together with Greyhawk and Blackmoor (bought after an Owl and Weasel basement playtest back in about 1975) to a teenage daughter of a friend into LARPing and Cosplay. (At that time the UK Dip hobby and Jackson and Livingstone had a more than tenuous relationship.) I was regarded as a Neanderthal even then as I continued to run my dungeons on those freer form rules rather than the cumbersome glossy AD&D set...

Yes to all Reinier Knizia's games, Dune, Acquire and how could I forget Cosmic Encounter and 1829, ghods, and Civilization (the Hartland Trefoil game). Acquire, and Civilization I played up until 2004. There is another game I miss, Dallas, (not the racetrack game, but the one with the diamond shaped board) - some of these I bought and lodged with some very close friends - v sadly my best friend with whom I played these died and they were given away. Not that it mattered; I no longer have access to a congenial group of friends with whom to play these.
FlemGem (1213 D)
Fri 21 Apr UTC
Acquire is a lot of fun, there is some luck. I liked the old 3M version better though. Have always loved 3M for that. Plus the fantastic sanding paper.
kaner406 (1388 D (B) (B))
Sat 22 Apr UTC
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Games which are much loved and played relatively often (in no particular order):
Cathedral
Kingdom Builder
Power Grid
Gravwell
History of the World
Machi Koro
Alhambra
Dominion
Tsuro
Chess
Hex
Mancala
Backgammon

Games which are loved but not played nearly often enough:
Twilight Struggle
Pandemic
Shogun
Smallworld
Space Alert
Tokaido
Carcasonne
RoboRally
TakenNoko

Games once loved, but no longer played much:
Settlers of Catan
Zombies!!!
Squatter
Twixt
A Game of Thrones
Stratego

Games sitting around either never played or played once:
Arkham Horror
Earth Reborn
War of the Ring
Road Kill Rally
Alexandros
Conquest of the Empire
Midgard
Zombicide
kaner406 (1388 D (B) (B))
Sat 22 Apr UTC
oh, and Ticket to Ride gets a fair workout as well.
mouse (1415 D)
Sat 22 Apr UTC
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kaner: to get the same enjoyment as you would from playing Arkham Horror, buy a deck of lovecraft-inspired playing cards, invite 3-5 of your friends around, and pick one of them to play solitare with that deck of cards.
zurn (904 D)
Sat 07 AM UTC
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Arkham Horror was a bust for me, although Eldritch Horror is an improvement. War of the Ring is quite fun, probably the most fun Middle Earth board game I've played. Works well 2, 3, or 4 player.

The one thing I remember of the partial game of Machiavelli I played eons ago was being able to outright bribe an army (and SC) right out from under someone. Gotta make sure to pay your troops...
Smokey Gem (804 D)
Sun 10 AM UTC
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Shogun lol we wore out the board...
kaner406 (1388 D (B) (B))
Mon 01 PM UTC
re: Arkham, I tried reading the rules. Twice. And thought f*ck that for a joke. Figured if anyone actually wanted to play it then they would read the bloody rules and not rely on me to interpret. TOO MUCH WORK!

re: Shogun - glad to hear that others have actually played it! I love the combat resolution system that the game has.

Earth Reborn is a really cool game, but I can't find anyone to actually sit down and learn the game with me :(

Anyone here play Hex? I'd love to play a game against you... there are servers out there...
kaner406 (1388 D (B) (B))
Mon 01 PM UTC
re: RoboRally - I would definitely play this game much more except my wifey loathes the game... something to do with actually being able to read a map... lol :)

I was also thinking about buying Tigris & Euphrates... anyone played it?
Mikey99 (2198 D)
Mon 09 PM UTC
There is an excellent online retailer that sells second hand versions of many games. I've bought old copies of Machiavelli, Dune, Kingmaker and Cosmic Encounters from them. Just do a search for Noble Knight games.
zurn (904 D)
Mon 09 PM UTC
Tigris & Euphrates is a classic. Kind of a brain burner, but that comes from the aggressive tactics, not the rules, which are simple. Haven't played it as much as it deserves.
FlemGem (1213 D)
Mon 11 PM UTC
@ Mikey - I've purchased from Noble Knight too. Good company.


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kaner406 (1388 D (B) (B))
24 Sep 16 UTC
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I've been Boursed!!! 2016
Hi all, when Amby and I were recording our recent podcast (diplomacygames.com) the topic of Bourse came up, and I got really excited and thought that I would try to get another game of this variant running...
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Devonian (1824 D)
29 Jun 15 UTC
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1v1 Tournament Rules, Rankings, and Challenges
Official Rules for 1v1 Ladder Tournament
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Known World Tournament
Awhile back, kaner proposed a Known World gunboat tournament in which 15 participants would play 15 games, one with each nation. I searched back for the thread, then just decided to start a new one. I want to see if there would be sufficient interest in this to try to get it off the ground.
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The Ambassador (1678 D (B) (B))
Wed 19 Apr UTC
Feedback for 1v1 Cold War on WWIV map
Hi folks, some of you may have heard me talk on the podcast about bringing the WWIV map to a Cold War circa 1984 1v1 variant. Interested in your thoughts about whether I use the standard WWIV map, the v6.2 version (is there any actual difference in the map itself?) or whether the sealane version would be better. Thoughts?
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The Problem Thread
This thread is if you have a problem you post and then everyone will try to help you with your problem.
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Happy Rome Day
since today (April 21) is Rome's 2770th birthday, I thought it would be nice to fill this thread with stories of the glory of Rome:
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Captainmeme (1591 D Mod (B))
Sat 08 AM UTC
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Reminder: ALWAYS check the settings of games you join!
Hi all,
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The Muting Thread
This is the thread that everyone mutes.
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Captainmeme (1591 D Mod (B))
01 Apr 17 UTC
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IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT ON VDIPLOMACY'S FUTURE
Please see within for details on the vDiplomacy Referendum.
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GOD (1694 D Mod (B))
28 Jan 16 UTC
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Can't stop the Trump
Does anyone here has a clue as to why Donald Trump is boycotting the latest republican debate? Seems to have only downsides and risks without a real gain to me. Enlighten me please.
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Anon (?? D)
Sun 09 Apr UTC
KING OF GUNBOAT
gameID=30786 2 day phases 100pt bet WTA Anon gunboat
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Matticus13 (1241 D)
Sat 15 Apr UTC
Seeking replacement for Shift Right variant game
http://vdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=30376#gamePanel

Looking for a replacement for Italy (me). The current position is pretty stable. I'm looking to eliminate all of my press games due to time constraints.
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Greetings Thread
Um....................... Hello? Is anyone there?
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The Ambassador (1678 D (B) (B))
08 Mar 17 UTC
Live video feed podcast?
Hi folks - Kaner and I are getting together this time next week for another boozy Dip chat.
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The Ambassador (1678 D (B) (B))
02 Sep 16 UTC
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New podcast for online Dip games
Hi everyone

Kaner and I have started a podcast about playing Diplomacy online....
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Captainmeme (1591 D Mod (B))
Tue 11 Apr UTC
The Original Diplomacy Variant
As many of you know, the Calhamer estate is being liquidated and the very first self-published Diplomacy board sold for just over $5000 last week. Well, something else interesting from the same sale - a bunch of prototype maps, these likely being from several years before the game was published.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/262922746919
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fasces349 (1052 D)
26 Dec 10 UTC
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Advertise live games here
Like in webdiplo, this thread will be used to help people find live games
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David E. Cohen (0 D)
29 Mar 17 UTC
Calhamer Estate Sale
See below.
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kaner406 (1388 D (B) (B))
03 Apr 17 UTC
Sitter needed!!
For 7 days, ongoing bourse game. 1 SC power, 3 day phases, no bourse orders needed, only a hotbod to look after the unit on the board. PM me or reply on this thread. Thanks!
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MerlijnvL (994 D)
31 Mar 17 UTC
Hallo
Hallo
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didigoose (1690 D)
13 Mar 17 UTC
Hof Points Question
I have 2 questions related to the Hof point calculation

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zurn (904 D)
28 Mar 17 UTC
Minor map issues
Is anybody able to make minor cosmetic map changes to the variants, for readability? There's two small things I've noticed:

* Imperial Diplomacy II: there's a connection between Morocco and W. Med, but the map really doesn't show it.
* First Crusade: The Sardinia supply centre in the large map is placed in an odd, almost invisible spot.
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Oztra (937 D)
18 Mar 17 UTC
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WebDip members on here
Hi Guys,
just wondering how many people that are from webdip come over here and do stuffs
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