@Tomaha: "I assume Rinascimento is only a simple variant".

No, it's not. The imbalance between powers is 0-4 in starting centers and 1-4 in starting units. Several powers just can't hope to win unless extremely unlikely lucky conditions are met, most of them can however hope to survive with some dignity till the endgame, although there are two or three (Siena, France, Pisa) that have very difficult to achieve even that and are almost invariably destroyed early on.

These problems may be attributed to poor game design or to a different concept of game design, debatable. It is still a popular variant for some reason and I have played it several times in the last few months (luckily always getting playable powers). I'd say the powers can be sorted as follows:

1. Venice: the big guy, nice starting corner position, many neutrals to grab and strong potential to control around 1/3 of the board (further advance may be hindered by stop the leader alliances, forcing a draw).

2. Genoa, Naples and the Pope: strong but with various issues that compensate. Very playable anyhow.

3. Milan, Savoy and Firenze: weak but still playable. Turkey may also be in this category, even if it begins with no centers and is bound to lose at least one unit in the first year.

4. Siena, France, Pisa and Ferrara: almost designed to lose. Exceptionally, in my experience, Ferrara and France may survive and even begin to thrive in their minimalist modesty, but always well behind the level development of the powers of category 1 and 2. It's possible I guess that the same may happen to Pisa. Siena has no chance unless it deceives and stabs a very gullible Firenze.

The game typically ends in draw, largely because of stalemate lines being favored by those silly Appenine impassables and because of stop-the-leader alliances. Also lots of drawers over here.

I was thinking that pot type discussions have actually weakened the enrolling process.
I am proposing to play this one UNRATED, so the problem does not arise and we can play with the minds free of points.

I hope this decision is ok with everyone in the list.

Settings recap:

Phase length: 2 days
Bet: 20 old-points
Variant: Rinascimento
Country assignment: Random
Pot type: unrated
Anon game: semi-anon actually
Messaging rule: full-press
Rating requirements: Reliability 90+ , Min Phases 100+
NMR policy: NMR:∞/1


Starts on 07 April.

1 – Decima Legio
2 – YCHTT
3 – Rancher
4 – diatarn_iv
5 – Guaroz
6 – Luis Aldamiz
7 – Ruffhaus8
8 –
9 –
10 –
11 –
12 –

Anyone else? Please update the list.

Bet: 0 old-points, stupid copy&paste

Great idea.

I'm good with the zero point unrated game.

I'm back from spring break, I'll play any variant of the variant

I'll join.

1 – Decima Legio
2 – YCHTT
3 – Rancher
4 – diatarn_iv
5 – Guaroz
6 – Luis Aldamiz
7 – Ruffhaus8
8 – Skylin
9 –
10 –
11 –
12 –

Bumping to keep this up there for recruiting

Ok I'm in.

1 – Decima Legio
2 – YCHTT
3 – Rancher
4 – diatarn_iv
5 – Guaroz
6 – Luis Aldamiz
7 – Ruffhaus8
8 – Skylin
9 – Maucat
10 –
11 –
12 –

I would be interested in this, however I've only played 60 phases.

You seem to be reliable enough, Les Matadors, I'll take care to PM you in case we don't fill the list in time.

Okay. I am reliable, I'm just really new here, I play on an app called Droidippy normally.

1– Decima Legio
2 – YCHTT
3 – Rancher
4 – diatarn_iv
5 – Guaroz
6 – Luis Aldamiz
7 – Ruffhaus8
8 – Skylin
9 – Maucat
10 – Strider
11 –
12 –

Happy birthday to your wife, YCHTT!

Thanks. I'll let her know. And thanks for remembering.

...Is this happening?

Even with you, we still need one more, Matadors.

Yeah, realized that, but are you guys still recruiting?

I was inclined to say "time up"... But we can't waste this opportunity.
I would say yes.
1 more volunteer and we have done.
Once the game will start you will certainly meet the Rating requirements, Matadors.

Phase length: 2 days
Bet: 0 old-points
Variant: Rinascimento
Country assignment: Random
Pot type: unrated
Anon game: semi-anon actually
Messaging rule: full-press
Rating requirements: Reliability 90+ , Min Phases 100+
NMR policy: NMR:∞/1



1– Decima Legio
2 – YCHTT
3 – Rancher
4 – diatarn_iv
5 – Guaroz
6 – Luis Aldamiz
7 – Ruffhaus8
8 – Skylin
9 – Maucat
10 – Strider
11 – Les Matadors
12 –


I’ll wait another 24 hours for the last volunteer willing to get involved in Italian troubles during the Renaissance period.

Ok, pity, time up.
Feel free to jon other games you guys in the list.
I'll bring up with a new gaming idea soon