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WineGod (1534 D)
15 May 22 UTC
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So Many Toxic Players??
Is it just me, or has the amount of toxic players on this site recently skyrocketed? Over the course of just a few games, I’ve seen people shoving strange moves in each others faces like a dog that crapped on the carpet, players belittling each other, piss poor attitudes after stabs, etc. - I don’t mean to complain, but I’m also seeing how it is effecting new players and this is generally something I can’t stand. (1/2)
WineGod (1534 D)
15 May 22 UTC
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(2/2) I’m all for dishing out some shit to toxic people when they start up with me, but does it have to literally be every game!? I figured I would put it out there, see what people are thinking, see what others are experiencing. I love this game and site and just wanted to vent a little about it.
M Shadow (1001 D)
15 May 22 UTC
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Literally, Me and this other random Stranger I met in another game were coincidentally having issues with the same person on different games.
Soo toxic to the extent that we both had him on mute.

What hed do is be excessively aggressive in communication like aggressive suspicion to the extent that even when ur telling them the truth you want to now change your moves and actually just prove them right about their suspicion - Like I know that this is what the game is based on, but CAN YOU STOP JUST ASSUMING THINGS!!! Im relatively new to the game So I don't know some recognised strategies and what certain strategic positioning implies and stuff - and this guy comes up and confronts me about knowing exactly what Im going to do in a few moves later!! and I genuinely wasn't even thinking along those lines, and his constant toxic aggression just made me want to prove him right its annoying - Sorry for the rant
M Shadow (1001 D)
15 May 22 UTC
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I just checked that guys account and he's a top 1% player - and yet he hasn't been able to distinguish between trends of moves and random instinctive moves for a new player
M Shadow (1001 D)
15 May 22 UTC
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Oh wait @winegod I just realised you are the other person I met who played with that jerk
drano019 (2710 D Mod)
15 May 22 UTC
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Im 99% positive I know who you two are referring to, and my advice is to block them. This prevents that player from joining games you are in (but also prevents you from joining games they are in).

You can do this from their profile page and clicking the smiley face. It should turn red I believe.
M Shadow (1001 D)
15 May 22 UTC
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Thanks for the tip lll do it now
mouse (1825 D)
15 May 22 UTC
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> and yet he hasn't been able to distinguish between trends of moves and random instinctive moves for a new player

I will note, *claiming* that you can't trust someone can be a deliberate ploy (and if you're saying they're top 1% despite being difficult to actually engaging in diplomacy, I'd put the money on it being more intentional than not).

I personally tend to go the "someone being a dick - troll them back and also ensure they don't survive the game" route instead of blocking, but if you'd prefer to just not deal with that shit any more than blocking (as drano noted) can be very useful.
M Shadow (1001 D)
15 May 22 UTC
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Mouse I like what you said - troll them back and ensure they don't survive, But I am just not at the level yet to do that. That guy has finished more than 10X as many games as me. Ima need more experience before I can do what you recommended
WineGod (1534 D)
15 May 22 UTC
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@M Shadow - Yeah, our conversation put me over the edge lol

@drano019 - Damn, I didn't know that! I'll have to do that with people that particularly grate me. I thought that all you could do was mute people.

@mouse - I have no problem with trolling people back, believe me. My issue is that I keep running into those kinds of players. It gets a little demoralizing and it no longer feels like I am playing this game with my friends, etc. - part of the reason why I'm a dick right back and part of the reason why I figured I'd get other people's takes.
Mitomon (1990 D)
16 May 22 UTC
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Sorry guys, got caught up in the heat of the moment
Mitomon (1990 D)
16 May 22 UTC
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oh, there's supposed to be a sleepy emoji at the end of that sentence to express sarcasm, forgot they don't work here
WineGod (1534 D)
16 May 22 UTC
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Lol I don't think anyone is talking about you - and we all get caught up in the heat of the moment sometimes... I just can't deal with the spewing of mediocrity from players for turns and turns when something doesn't go their way, or the constant jabs and taunts when you ask for a little support. Like, can't people just be civil?
Sasanov (963 D)
17 May 22 UTC
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well, i think there is also an element of them just typing words onto a screen. i mean even if that person is being annoying on purpose, i bet that they would not behave that way face to face.
ubercacher16 (2169 D)
17 May 22 UTC
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Jerks will be jerks, all we can do is not be jerks.
WineGod (1534 D)
17 May 22 UTC
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That's a good point Sasanov... I think that stands for most players.

Ubercacher, even when they're being jerks to you?
Sasanov (963 D)
17 May 22 UTC
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"how can turn the other cheek? / it's black and bruised and torn..."
Natedog (1028 D)
17 May 22 UTC
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CAN I GET AN AMEN, my brothas, I've noticed the toxicity shoot up recently especially with players like ShadyBoi47 and Eisenhower (not really)
@Natedog Pretty sure I joined a while before you, but let's try to stay amiable. ShadyBoi47 has never been rude/toxic to me, but I guess we all act different in different games and situations.
Natedog (1028 D)
17 May 22 UTC
@Eisenhower, i have screenshots of some toxic messages from you and shadyboi, i also have a sneaky suspicion that you are multiaccountng
Just because my name is (notreally) doesn't mean I'm multiaccounting dude lol.
ibuprofen (1936 D)
17 May 22 UTC
I strongly feel starting off with a "Hello there, friend!" and ending with a "Best of luck!" has done me more diplomacy-wise than any strategic ploy.
gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
17 May 22 UTC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9Oo0DFAvzw
I don't trust youtube links after everything in 2020-2021
can someone take the hit and tell me if its a rickroll?
It's a family guy clip, Ibuprofen is probably right.
ShadyBoi47 (910 D)
17 May 22 UTC
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Hello there, friends! I always strive to be respectful no matter the scenario, so I apologize if any of my words came off as rude or toxic. I will make sure that I be the best player I can be in the future. Best of luck!
ubercacher16 (2169 D)
17 May 22 UTC
lol
ubercacher16 (2169 D)
17 May 22 UTC
WineGod, especially when they are being jerks to us
Janis (1073 D)
19 May 22 UTC
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WineGod, for what's it's worth, I think I know who you're talking about and I have a more positive perspective on them. When I first started playing, this player took quite a bit of time to orient me to the rules, the site, the general culture, etc. This was in a game that I was the SC leader of for much of the game, and I ended up winning that game, so I know this wasn't some elaborate sweet-talking ruse. Of course I don't know what exactly went down between you two, but just wanted to add that I've had positive interactions with them.

Speaking of toxicity, this is a bit unrelated, but I think all of the "unwritten rules" of diplomacy are really fascinating. Almost every player has some sort of threshold where they define a boundary between "crafty but honorable gameplay" versus "dishonorable/unsportsmanlike gameplay". I think diplomacy is kind of similar to pickup basketball where there aren't any referees, so in order to keep any norms at all, players must self-police (there are mods that can monitor for outright cheating, but no "referees" to define unsportsmanlike gameplay). And all of this is in the context of wildly different definitions of what is acceptable vs unacceptable gameplay--e.g., some players (including me) think it's important to continue previous alliance when taking over a CDed nation; others re-evaluate alliances pretty ruthlessly. This is a standard of unsportsmanlike gameplay that has to be policed by players, not mods.
WineGod (1534 D)
19 May 22 UTC
I'm not talking about one player, really - this is more of a generalization. There are particular players that really irk me and I won't find myself around them anytime soon, but this was more of a generality.

And I get what you're saying about unsportsmanlike vs sportsmanlike conduct, but if you break an unspoken rule because you want to win a game or because a player is already being toxic to you... it isn't like you're cheating and you don't really need anyone talking about your mother - you know?
this is why i prefer gunboat even tho i suck at it /jk
Strider (1604 D)
13 Jul 22 UTC
About mute... would you be able to read this if muted?
Rancher (1247 D)
15 Jul 22 UTC
I love y'all here, try not to be toxic -- but if you want a ghost lance up your posterior join the gnu Early Oktoberfest Germany 1648 variant!! We promise to play nice ...
Dejan0707 (1986 D)
08 Aug 22 UTC
Here and there, there would be some toxic players but that is how the world turns. Muting is not in most cases the solution since in other cuircumstance the same player can be also un-toxic.
gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
08 Aug 22 UTC
That's not enough. We demand more toxic players. More toxic players. More toxic players! MORE TOXIC PLAYERS!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POB3Dr0uonc


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thecuntsman (924 D)
01 Aug 22 UTC
Feel free to join!
This is a private game, but the join code is letsgetthisbread
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Heronickk (708 D)
28 Jul 22 UTC
more points
how i can get more points? i have only 2 and i will still playing
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Orange (2325 D)
31 Jul 22 UTC
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Crashed games in the new games list
Is there a way to get rid of the crashed games that appear in the new games list? They've been there for like a year and they keep making me think there's more potential games than there actually are.
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Macca573 (1517 D)
18 Apr 22 UTC
Around the World 2
As some of you may remember, I ran the "Around the World" tournament 2 years ago (visible on Tournaments page). I'm looking at perhaps doing it again, depending on interest. What do y'all think?
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Are points important?
Clearly a measure of a players ability can be glanced through points, but what are the pros and cons of rated and unrated games? Unrated games provide a bit more of a laid back attitude and from my experience are more open to draws, but at the same time when points are at stake players are less likely to miss turns and more likely to play to the best of their ability.
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David Hood (976 D)
15 Jul 22 UTC
July 2022 Deadline News Is Out
https://youtu.be/PVRc97BNmBs
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bootmii (663 D)
08 Jul 22 UTC
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Crashed games in the New tab
Let's purge them, shall we?
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AJManso4 (2318 D)
02 Jul 22 UTC
Regarding vpoint gain
In the Modern Europa map in PPSC, which scenario gives more vpoints, and how would it be calculated?

a) Two nations split the map in two, with one getting slightly more SCs than the other for a solo victory in PPSC
b) A 4-5 way draw in PPSC, with my nation having about 25-30% of the map
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Jean_Henri_BERNARD (1908 D)
24 Jun 22 UTC
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Comparison between WW1 maps.
My message is too long so it is in reply. The goal is to compare the two Edwardian, 1900 and classical maps.
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erikip107 (2539 D)
27 Jun 22 UTC
Private game and discussions off-site
This is more directed at the mod team, but here for everyone to see:

I was thinking about making a private game with some friends in public press (unranked); I was wondering if we would be allowed to use communications off-site as to receive notifications, without breaking site rules.
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erikip107 (2539 D)
27 Jun 22 UTC
Private game and discussions off-site
This is more directed at the mod team, but here for everyone to see:

I was thinking about making a private game with some friends in public press (unranked); I was wondering if we would be allowed to use communications off-site as to receive notifications, without breaking site rules.
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Ideas for a new world wide map
So I was looking at a few different variants and was inspired by the Modern Europe and Divided States maps. My idea is a world wide map with the same detail as both of those maps, with sea lanes of course.
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ubercacher16 (2169 D)
05 Jun 22 UTC
1862 playtest
Seeking players for a playtest of the 1862 18 player diplomacy variant on Discord. More details below.
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bilbert (1000 D)
08 Jun 22 UTC
New World 1650 Playtest Recruiting Players
Proud to announce a new variant called New World 1650. I spent quite a bit of time learning Adobe Illustrator and reading history and contemporary maps and am pretty happy with the results. It's still in playtest mode, which will be done on Discord: https://discord.gg/r553XZr7Me
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Regular Person (1189 D)
24 May 22 UTC
Mechanics of a Variant
Hi
I have a move is like to do in one of my games, however I'm not sure what the result will be, as the variant mechanics page does not specify my exact scenario.
how can I find out this information with the next day?
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David Hood (976 D)
21 May 22 UTC
May 2022 Deadline News is Out!
May edition of Deadline is out on DBN. Tactical tricks, Shelden for Senate, and Headlines from around the World of Diplomacy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqplAnVpREk
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gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
18 May 22 UTC
The wisdom of Texans demonstrated yet again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePxeYGoW8wY
"...European football which most Texans believe to be a Commie plot."
https://www.wsj.com/articles/us-soccer-women-men-equal-pay-11652840505?st=gp9qnkn3s64b79z&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink
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Can you see who all the users you have blocked in one place?
Reason for asking, I would like to join a divided states game that is nearing full, but someone in the game has me blocked, or I have someone in the game blocked. I just want to make sure it's not my fault that I can't join the game, even though I don't think I have ever blocked someone. If you could help my situation I'd be very thankful.
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Agnaar (2332 D)
04 May 22 UTC
Europa Renovatio is no longer virgin!
After achieving the first ever solo on this map, https://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=39135#gamePanel, here is the first solo full press on that map : https://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=49717#gamePanel.

Agnaar, world champion of Europa Renovatio!! :)
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Flame (1073 D)
01 May 22 UTC
What should be done in this situation?
Hi all!
If one players has got the domination on the board but another players managed to set a stalement line against him.
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Macca573 (1517 D)
29 Apr 22 UTC
Physical Boards
Finally got my hands on a physical game board. Very excited!
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gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
04 Oct 21 UTC
The Aussies have let me down
I just discovered that there is a town in Australia called Texas. Furthermore, because it is on a state border, there are in fact two. And most importantly, Peter Sherwin was from Texas, Qld/NSW. So Australia's greatest cattle baron and largest private owner of ranchland was from Texas.
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David Hood (976 D)
19 Apr 22 UTC
April 2022 Deadline News is out, from the Diplomacy Broadcast Network
Features a panel discussion on variants, Tanya Gill interview, and headlines from around the world of Diplomacy:
https://youtu.be/MprN5LJ-OKc
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General Treanor (817 D)
30 Mar 22 UTC
Maps with a bid for centers system.
Hey everyone.
I really like the added randomness that the Greek diplomacy map as with its bidding to your home centers.
Is there any other maps that have something like this?
Cheers
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