oh yeah for sure this won't be ranked. 12 makes teams a lot easier as well!

1. erikip107
2. ubercacher16
3. halfasleep
4. Samj
5. JustAGuyNamedWill
6. Xenon Radon
7. Orange
8. han-shahanshah
9. hakureimarisa
10. drano019
11. Argyle Poblano
12. Mitomon

This leaves us with

World at War: https://www.vdiplomacy.com/variants.php?variantID=171

Fantasy: https://www.vdiplomacy.com/variants.php?variantID=44

Rinascimento: https://www.vdiplomacy.com/variants.php?variantID=29

I personally vote against Rinascimento because of the way the Turks are set up; I don't think they play particularly well into the team aspect.

I vote Fantasy. A map that has no openings that are well know is pretty good for a team game!

I think one of the enticing aspects of a team game is the chaos factor- Fantasy feels just a little too balanced for proper team play. Despite the glaring anachronisms and massive power disparities, I vote for World at War.

I think Rinascimento would be a fascinating option for a team game. Might be able to make some of the otherwise completely unviable powers viable. The Turks could just be teamed up with powers that they aren't forced into fighting, especially Naples. I recognize that won't be everybody's cup of tea, so happy to defer to either of the others. World at War could work given its historical setting, perhaps some sort of allies vs axis thing could be arranged?

I am strongly against Rinascimento. I've tried a 6v6 game on that map. Those countries with 1 center just kept bouncing their enemy every turn, and could not do anything else.
I also played 6v6 on Fantasy. I think this map is kind of Boring.
World at War may be a choice, but the teams have to be set before the game starts. Drafting doesn't seem fine on this.

Or perhaps we can wait for a few more players?

Actually yeah, if we get two more players we could do Gobble Earth. We would have to pick the teams beforehand though, the potential for a crazy unbalanced team is huge lol

If you guys are willing, we could also get the 12-player game going, and if we get 2 more, we can do the gobble Earth one next or concurrently.

Happy to be one of those 2 players. Won't be upset if you go for the 12-player game.

I am still in for #14..

Great! We can do gobble earth!

How do we set the teams then?

It would have to be a Choose-Your-Country, and I guess we decide on teams & who's on what team beforehand

We could decide which powers are on teams and then people join and are randomly assigned. In that case it might be less interesting though. I'm thinking like a 7v7 two teams type thing

Two teams is probably not ideal; too much gridlock for the regional powers (Austria will really be starved.) Maybe four teams of three and one team of two? Big five would be Britain, France, Germany, Russia and USA in that case.

I don't like the idea that 14 countries are divided into 3 or more teams. If it's 36 players we can do that, but with 14 I strongly prefer only 2 teams.

I actually strongly prefer any number higher than 2 teams, even with unequal numbers. to me, it seems 2 teams would away diplomatic aspects of the game and it would come down to pure tactics/which side can communicate with itself better. Eventually the game will come down to 2 players, but I imagine we'd implement "when one team collectively meets the solo requirement the game is over"

Agreed. Actually, though, if we get 15, we could do 5 teams of 3 on Known World 901. (I don’t think we will though)

I also vote for more than 2 teams. 3 per team would be great and we can have 1 team have two of the bigger powers

Team playing and diplomatic playing are two different sides. It will be pretty strange to mix them in a same game.
No matter how large is a team, one can always command his teammates, unless the game is gunboat.

Yeah, that's the thing. Two teams would likely just accelerate the game to a gridlock where only a couple of provinces change hands every so often, whereas more teams would lead to more action

Two teams will absolutely lead to gridlock if there are semi-competent players on both sides. Which, based on the lineup so far, is absolutely the case. The top strategists will basically give marching orders to allies in order to lock down a stalemate and try to progress from there. There's really not much of a point to playing a 7v7 IMO.

We're going to just have to have someone pick the details and say "who's in?" for that set of details. otherwise we'll just keep going in a circle.

Alright, I will start taking names for whoever wants to play my version of Gobble Earth Teams. The game will be anonymous and have random country assignments. These are the teams:
England, China
Mexico, Argentina, France
USA, Austria, Germany
Russia, Italy, Turkey
Brazil, Colombia, Japan

I've tried to pair strong powers with weaker powers and also tried to have them not lead to situations where one country is sacrificed for the best of the team. I tried to not bunch them closely together, but made an exception with Colombia and Brazil since Colombia only has 2 centers. Sure it seems bad for Argentina alone on the continent, but Mexico being right there balances it out in my opinion.

Players:
1.Mitomon

Oh, win condition is last team standing

My preferred team arrangement gives each team one European colonial, one American, and one Eurasian regional.
Britain-Japan-Colombia
France-Turkey-Argentina
Germany-China-Mexico
Russia-Austria-Brazil
USA-Italy

Players:
1. han-shahanshah

Alright, I will start taking names for whoever wants to play my version of Gobble Earth Teams. The game will be anonymous and have random country assignments. These are the teams:
England, China
Mexico, Argentina, France
USA, Austria, Germany
Russia, Italy, Turkey
Brazil, Colombia, Japan

I've tried to pair strong powers with weaker powers and also tried to have them not lead to situations where one country is sacrificed for the best of the team. I tried to not bunch them closely together, but made an exception with Colombia and Brazil since Colombia only has 2 centers. Sure it seems bad for Argentina alone on the continent, but Mexico being right there balances it out in my opinion.

Players:
1.Mitomon
2. JustAGuyNamedWill

I’ve posted a separate thread of Mitomon’s game, I like it a lot

I think the Russia-Italy-Turkey combo is a huge issue; while the South America setup pits the Japan and France teams to war no matter what.