Forum - vDiplomacy

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03:27 PM UTC

Crashed games

In the "new games" section, there are countless crashed games, going so far, that most games are crashed games. For some reason this always bothers me. Can someone therefore please delete them?

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Nuerginator (1109

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02:11 PM UTC

Why did my rating go down?

I joined a PPSC game that was nearly over, and ended with 3 supply centers. Since I bet none, why did my rating go down? Shouldn't it go up, since I won 3 points but paid 0 to enter?

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gman314 (1016

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12 Mar 11 UTC
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Winning

Oli won.
On Imperial Civilization's off-topic thread (link inside), there was a brief stint of Second to Last Person to Post Wins. Now that the thread is closed, Oli won.

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butterhead (1391

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21 May 12 UTC
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Advertise your NON-live games here!

In an effort to compromise the pro-ads versus anti-ads for games: Post here for your non-live games to cut down on the number of ads but still advertise games. Post game link, WTA or PPSC, and the bet. Note: this doesn't count for special rules games.

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VengefulPenguin43 (1952

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Wed 25 Feb UTC

Higher Rated Games

I'm curious if anyone would want to run some games through this thread of people with higher ratings? There's no real way to screen for it on anonymous games, and I feel like it would make for generally better games.

If this is against some sort of equal play law on this site, no worries at all, just wanted to see if there was any interest, and if so, what maps people wanted?

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MagicalSand (1876

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17 Feb 26 UTC
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Europa Renavito team game but color coded

Call me crazy, but I have an idea. Ive seen team games done on this map before and they are pretty fun. So I thought up a unique twist to it, all the teams are color coded! (Mostly)

So i went and spent an hour putting together a rough idea to what it could be. 6 teams, relatively evenly spread out, and coded to colors with a few exceptions. Afterall where do you put Morocco the only orange country?

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Heer Alvaro (1000

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Wed 04 Mar UTC

Middle East on War

Hi, Years ago I created a Map called “Middle East on War”. But this map is not working fully well because wasn’t created correctly.

Can someone help me to create 100% correctly this map?

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David Hood (976

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Thu 05 Mar UTC
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February Deadline News Just Released

Latest Episode of Deadline News is out from the Diplomacy Broadcast Network. In this edition we have a promo interview about the upcoming World Dipcon in Greece with TD Spyros Dovas, an interview with UK hobby legend Stephen Agar about a great many things, the annual determination of what is Hot or Not in the hobby with Christopher John Ward, Zoe Cameron, and Randy Lawrence Hurt, and headlines from around the world of Diplomacy.
https://youtu.be/kYbnHM3zGig?si=NLgDQrsKv2opBhl2

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magician07 (1575

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26 Jan 26 UTC

How to report cheating ?

In one of my games, I suspect that two players may be friends or even the same person. Their site registration dates are identical, and they have played the same three games together. How can I report this?
Game: https://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=65588
Players: England and Italy

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VengefulPenguin43 (1952

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20 Feb 26 UTC
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Rating issues

Is anyone else having issues with rating? I just finished a game on Empires and Coalitions and dropped 150 points despite being part of a 4-way draw. Would love to hear if this is just a me problem, or if other people are experiencing this.

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Richie_FL (1000

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Sat 21 Feb UTC
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I Ranked All The Variants

I thought it would be interesting to compare each map, so I wrote some code, based on the best country's performance minus the worst country's performance, then the biggest difference is ranked lower, while a smaller difference is ranked higher. I spent too much time on it, and now I have a list, check it out!

Richie_FL (1000 )
Sat 21 Feb UTC
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Imported Playlist (Rank_List order):
1. Cold War (2 players)
2. 843: Treaty of Verdun (3 players)
3. Lepanto (2 players)
4. Duo (2 players)
5. Modern Diplomacy II (10 players)
6. USA (8 players)
7. Pure (7 players)
8. Classic (7 players)
9. Mars (6 players)
10. Chromatic (5 players)
11. 1800 - Empires and Coalitions (9 players)
12. Classic - Italy+ Vs England+ Vs Russia (3 players)
13. War of Austrian Succession (9 players)
14. Zeus 5 (7 players)
15. Classic - Crowded (11 players)
16. Fall of the American Empire IV (10 players)
17. World War IV (35 players)
18. Classic - Fog of War (7 players)
19. Youngstown World War II (6 players)
20. Germany 1648 (7 players)
21. Rat Wars (4 players)
22. Sengoku (8 players)
23. Europa Renovatio (36 players)
24. Classic - Fog of War (7 players)
25. The Ancient Mediterranean (5 players)
26. Europe 1939 (8 players)
27. Canton Diplomacy (7 players)
28. Classic - Chaos (34 players)
29. Classic - 1898 (7 players)
30. World Diplomacy X (17 players)
31. Fall of the American Empire: Civil War! (2 players)
32. World War II (5 players)
33. Classic - England* Vs Turkey (2 players)
34. Aberration V (9 players)
35. Known World 901 (15 players)
36. Imperial Diplomacy II (13 players)
37. Abstraction III (7 players)
38. Indians of the Great Lakes (9 players)
39. First Crusade (7 players)
40. Classic - Economic (7 players)
41. Classic - Layered (7 players)
42. Haven (19 players)
43. World Diplomacy IX (17 players)
44. Fantasy World Diplomacy (12 players)
45. The Dutch Revolt (5 players)
46. Habelya (8 players)
47. Gobble-Earth (14 players)
48. Divided States (50 players)
49. Napoleonic (10 players)
50. Classic - 1898 Fog of War (7 players)
51. Imperium Diplomacy (6 players)
52. South America (5 players)
53. Dark Ages (7 players)
54. World War IV (Version 6.2) (36 players)
55. A Modern Europe (20 players)
56. Classic - Octopus (7 players)
57. Renaissance - 1453 (7 players)
58. Classic - With a custom start (7 players)
59. Classic - Ankara Crescent (7 players)
60. Age of Pericles (7 players)
61. Classic - Build anywhere (7 players)
62. Anarchy in the UK (6 players)
63. Enlightenment & Succession (10 players)
64. Classic Touchy (7 players)
65. Classic - France vs Austria (2 players)
66. Classic - 1880 (7 players)
67. Mate Against Mate (8 players)
68. Hundred (3 players)
69. Classic - GreyPress (7 players)
70. Colonial Diplomacy (7 players)
71. Youngstown - Redux (10 players)
72. 1900 (7 players)
73. American Conflict (6 players)
74. Classic - Milan Diplomacy (7 players)
75. East Indies (14 players)
76. 1066 (V2.0) (3 players)
77. Classic - 1897 (7 players)
78. Celtic Britain (8 players)
79. Colonial 1885 (10 players)
80. Classic - Chaoctopi (34 players)
81. Manifest Destiny (5 players)
82. Maharajah (7 players)
83. Chesspolitik (4 players)
84. Pirates (13 players)
85. Greek Diplomacy (6 players)
86. Cold War Redux (4 players)
87. World War IV sealanes (35 players)
88. Classic - 1913 (7 players)
89. Classic - Brazilian (7 players)
90. Spice Islands (7 players)
91. Classic - Frankland Vs Juggernaut (2 players)
92. Atlantic Colonies (4 players)
93. A World At War - 1937 (12 players)
94. Western World 901 (9 players)
95. Classic - Cataclysm (7 players)
96. HeptarchyIV (7 players)
97. South American Supremacy (8 players)
98. Sengoku: Nagashino (V6) (5 players)
99. 1600 (9 players)
100. Africa (8 players)
101. Edwardian (7 players)
102. Sail Ho II (4 players)
103. Classic - With fleet in Rome (7 players)
104. Karibik (8 players)
105. Balkans 1860 (7 players)
106. Alacavre (7 players)
107. Classic - NoNeutrals (7 players)
108. NorthSea Wars (4 players)
109. War in 2020 (10 players)
110. Classic - Germany vs Italy (2 players)
111. Classic - 7 Islands (7 players)
112. Caucasia (5 players)
113. Viking Diplomacy IV (8 players)
114. Rinascimento (12 players)
115. Balkan Wars VI (6 players)
116. Migraine (8 players)
117. 1066 (3 players)
118. Who controls America (8 players)
119. 13th Century Mongolian Empire (11 players)
120. Classic - Florence (7 players)
121. Crusades 1201 (11 players)
122. South America (4 players)
123. 1066 (V3.0) (3 players)
124. Machiavelli - The Balance of Power (8 players)
125. Classic - France vs Germany vs Austria (3 players)
126. South of Sahara (5 players)
127. Speed Europa (7 players)
128. Edwardian - 3rd Edition (7 players)
129. Classic - Egypt (7 players)
130. Machiavelli - To the Renaissance (7 players)
131. Classic - Britain (7 players)
132. Classic - Pilot (7 players)
133. Hussite Wars (9 players)
134. Classic - Pick your countries (7 players)
135. Punic Wars (4 players)
136. Classic - Croatia (7 players)
137. Classic - Germany vs Russia (2 players)
138. Fubar (6 players)

Raw List
cat > /Users/___/variants.csv <<'CSV'
name,winRate1,winRate2
1066 (3 players),7.16,3.58
1066 (V2.0) (3 players),6.53,4.14
1066 (V3.0) (3 players),7.21,3.37
13th Century Mongolian Empire (11 players),3.84,0.08
1600 (9 players),4.15,1.17
1800 - Empires and Coalitions (9 players),2.69,1.58
1900 (7 players),4.23,1.93
843: Treaty of Verdun (3 players),5.57,5.41
A Modern Europe (20 players),2.3,0.26
A World At War - 1937 (12 players),3.2,0.37
Aberration V (9 players),3.16,1.54
Abstraction III (7 players),3.53,1.83
Africa (8 players),4.57,1.54
Age of Pericles (7 players),4.09,1.96
Alacavre (7 players),4.32,1.18
American Conflict (6 players),4.07,1.75
Anarchy in the UK (6 players),4.18,2.04
Atlantic Colonies (4 players),5.96,3.18
Balkan Wars VI (6 players),5.41,1.85
Balkans 1860 (7 players),4.31,1.22
Canton Diplomacy (7 players),3.41,1.94
Caucasia (5 players),5.27,1.81
Chesspolitik (4 players),5.61,3.09
Celtic Britain (8 players),3.63,1.22
Chromatic (5 players),4.23,3.14
Classic (7 players),3.18,2.2
Classic - 1880 (7 players),3.61,1.39
Classic - 1897 (7 players),3.82,1.42
Classic - 1898 (7 players),3.3,1.78
Classic - 1898 Fog of War (7 players),3.72,1.79
Classic - 1913 (7 players),4.29,1.61
Classic - 7 Islands (7 players),4.82,1.46
Classic - Ankara Crescent (7 players),3.67,1.56
Classic - Brazilian (7 players),4.44,1.72
Classic - Britain (7 players),5.09,0.18
Classic - Build anywhere (7 players),3.28,1.15
Classic - Cataclysm (7 players),3.86,1.0
Classic - Chaos (34 players),1.72,0.21
Classic - Chaoctopi (34 players),2.5,0.0
Classic - Croatia (7 players),6.54,0.85
Classic - Crowded (11 players),2.45,1.27
Classic - Fog of War (7 players),3.42,2.18
Classic - Economic (7 players),3.79,2.06
Classic - Egypt (7 players),5.46,0.85
Classic - England* Vs Turkey (2 players),8.36,6.75
Classic - Florence (7 players),5.54,1.77
Classic - Fog of War (7 players),3.42,2.02
Classic - France vs Austria (2 players),8.76,6.56
Classic - France vs Germany vs Austria (3 players),7.49,3.39
Classic - Frankland Vs Juggernaut (2 players),9.1,6.34
Classic - Germany vs Italy (2 players),9.36,6.04
Classic - Germany vs Russia (2 players),10.62,4.54
Classic - GreyPress (7 players),3.91,1.66
Classic - Italy+ Vs England+ Vs Russia (3 players),5.69,4.58
Classic - Layered (7 players),3.42,1.68
Classic - Milan Diplomacy (7 players),4.05,1.7
Classic - NoNeutrals (7 players),4.7,1.45
Classic - Octopus (7 players),3.57,1.53
Classic - Pick your countries (7 players),6.24,0.95
Classic - Pilot (7 players),5.63,0.63
Classic - With a custom start (7 players),3.86,1.77
Classic - With fleet in Rome (7 players),4.79,1.72
Classic Touchy (7 players),4.33,2.15
Cold War (2 players),7.5,7.77
Cold War Redux (4 players),5.61,2.97
Colonial 1885 (10 players),3.8,1.34
Colonial Diplomacy (7 players),4.3,2.04
Crusades 1201 (11 players),4.25,0.43
Dark Ages (7 players),3.94,1.95
Divided States (50 players),2.07,0.17
Duo (2 players),7.66,7.04
East Indies (14 players),3.33,0.95
Edwardian (7 players),4.75,1.71
Edwardian - 3rd Edition (7 players),5.95,1.44
Enlightenment & Succession (10 players),3.24,1.1
Europa Renovatio (36 players),1.7,0.39
Europe 1939 (8 players),3.29,1.84
Fall of the American Empire IV (10 players),2.55,1.34
Fall of the American Empire: Civil War! (2 players),8.18,6.61
Fantasy World Diplomacy (12 players),3.14,1.29
First Crusade (7 players),3.28,1.55
Fubar (6 players),8.12,1.09
Germany 1648 (7 players),3.24,1.96
Gobble-Earth (14 players),3.2,1.31
Greek Diplomacy (6 players),4.23,1.65
Habelya (8 players),3.55,1.66
Haven (19 players),2.6,0.85
HeptarchyIV (7 players),4.73,1.87
Hundred (3 players),6.63,4.39
Hussite Wars (9 players),5.5,0.39
Imperial Diplomacy II (13 players),3.22,1.53
Imperium Diplomacy (6 players),3.95,2.02
Indians of the Great Lakes (9 players),3.21,1.5
Karibik (8 players),4.62,1.54
Known World 901 (15 players),2.83,1.19
Lepanto (2 players),7.08,6.81
Maharajah (7 players),4.0,1.48
Machiavelli - The Balance of Power (8 players),5.41,1.41
Machiavelli - To the Renaissance (7 players),5.18,0.55
Mars (6 players),3.34,2.29
Manifest Destiny (5 players),5.13,2.62
Mate Against Mate (8 players),3.44,1.22
Migraine (8 players),4.78,1.22
Modern Diplomacy II (10 players),2.64,1.81
Napoleonic (10 players),3.13,1.21
NorthSea Wars (4 players),5.82,2.56
Pirates (13 players),3.38,0.81
Punic Wars (4 players),7.92,2.23
Pure (7 players),3.07,2.15
Rat Wars (4 players),4.87,3.59
Renaissance - 1453 (7 players),3.86,1.82
Rinascimento (12 players),4.31,0.77
Sail Ho II (4 players),6.35,3.28
Sengoku (8 players),2.9,1.61
Sengoku: Nagashino (V6) (5 players),4.79,1.84
South America (5 players),4.74,2.8
South America (4 players),6.42,2.6
South American Supremacy (8 players),4.34,1.44
South of Sahara (5 players),6.24,2.0
Speed Europa (7 players),4.79,0.5
Spice Islands (7 players),4.11,1.37
The Ancient Mediterranean (5 players),4.14,2.69
The Dutch Revolt (5 players),4.18,2.31
USA (8 players),2.8,1.91
Viking Diplomacy IV (8 players),4.8,1.27
War in 2020 (10 players),3.81,0.5
War of Austrian Succession (9 players),2.84,1.72
Western World 901 (9 players),3.81,0.97
Who controls America (8 players),4.45,0.7
World Diplomacy IX (17 players),2.3,0.54
World Diplomacy X (17 players),2.07,0.54
World War II (5 players),3.97,2.38
World War IV (35 players),1.93,0.71
World War IV (Version 6.2) (36 players),2.22,0.19
World War IV sealanes (35 players),2.65,0.0
Youngstown - Redux (10 players),4.03,1.77
Youngstown World War II (6 players),3.65,2.41
Zeus 5 (7 players),3.47,2.35
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vlgambini (1592 )
Sat 21 Feb UTC
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Great analysis, thank you!

G-Man (2685 )
Sat 21 Feb UTC

Awesome job! Thank you. MODERN!!

Bonatogether (1261 )
Sat 21 Feb UTC

can we get a chart of the distribution of the differences?

David E. Cohen (1000 )
Sun 22 Feb UTC
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This would be rather less valuable for variants which haven't been played much.

AleChoel (1125 )
Sun 22 Feb UTC

This is really cool! Alacavre's placement is hilarious.

CoffeeAndKeyboards (1428 )
Sun 22 Feb UTC

Duo isn't the most fair 1v1 game out there wtf

Enriador (1507 )
Mon 23 Feb UTC

This is genuinely amazing work, cheers.

Richie_FL (1000 )
Tue 24 Feb UTC

Bonatogether, your wish is my command! file:///System/Volumes/Update/mnt1/On_A_Chart.png , sadly I could not fit the entire image but if you go to csv plot and convert my "raw List" into a csv file you can actually interact with it!

Andizza (1583 )
Tue 24 Feb UTC

Great work! Cheers!
2 minor comment:
1. I found 2 Classic - Fog of War. Are they different varients?
2. The Cold War, winRate 1 is 7.5 while winRate2 is 7.77. While I guess winRate1 is the best country and winRate2 is the worst country, I'm curious about why winRate2 is higher for this varient.

CoffeeAndKeyboards (1428 )
Tue 24 Feb UTC

it is kinda funny that world war iv sea lanes have 4 countries with a 0 power rating. 0 wins, 0 draws

AivenSycamore (830 )
Tue 24 Feb UTC

Classic Chaos above the standard classic is shocking!!

The Ambassador (2381 )
Tue 24 Feb UTC

My best comes in 88th and kaner smashed me again.... bloody kaner

:-P

kaner406 (2247 )
Tue 24 Feb UTC

:)
Mars in 9th position
Rat wars in 21st

The Ambassador (2381 )
Tue 24 Feb UTC

Dirty Martian rat….

Richie_FL (1000 )
Tue 24 Feb UTC

Andizza, thank you for pointing out that clerical error! that luckily that does not affect the list too much, as instead of being first Cold War is now second
(new top 3)
1. 843: Treaty of Verdun (3 players)
2. Cold War (2 players)
3. Lepanto (2 players)

Frozen Dog (2246 )
Tue 24 Feb UTC

Modern Diplomacy II is ranked shockingly high. Really good balance for a 10 player map.

Amazing work, love this resource.

AivenSycamore (830 )
Wed 25 Feb UTC

I retract my previous statement. I don't know how I misread it that badly lmao.
Awesome and interesting resource though!

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Peppapig (1020

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16 Feb 26 UTC
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Happy Lunar New Year! 新年快乐！

Happy Lunar New Year! 新年快乐！

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Tdawg37 (1000

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18 Feb 26 UTC

Sandbox

Is there any way to make a sandbox on vDip? I can't seem to find it in any menu

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CoffeeAndKeyboards (1428

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15 Feb 26 UTC
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Congratulations Lawton!

Apparently something to do with the AncMed map

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vlgambini (1592

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27 Jan 26 UTC

Awake

vDip is hosting the diplomacy version of "Awake," the 2019 Netflix game show! Details below.

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AivenSycamore (830

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13 Nov 25 UTC

Diplomacy Variant Creation

So I've been in the process of making a Diplomacy Variant. I plan to take the "Europa Renovatio" map and update and expand it. (What I mean to say is, because it's a translation of the EU4 map, it's gone out of date since then.)

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eatheavymetal (998

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09 Feb 26 UTC

Divided States Game

Hey, I am advetising this Divided States game. It's over half full right now, but we still need a lot more players. Global and individual chat is on for this game.

https://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=65731

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Specialweek (2637

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30 Jan 26 UTC

About the Colonial 1885 version

Due to the map info it says that the Caspian Sea is a passible place, so it seems that the only possible case is that Russia build a fleet at Orenburg and move it into the Caspian sea. But have anyone ever seen a fleet there? Just curious.

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kaner406 (2247

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08 Sep 18 UTC
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Variant Development Thread

This thread is made for the express purpose of cutting down of multiple threads that deal with new variants, ideas, concepts etc...

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Anon (??

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05 Feb 26 UTC

1 hour turns

https://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=65662#gamePanel

I know we arent supposed to talk about ongoing games really, but since this game is a gun boat, this is the only way to do so. Anyways someone made a gunboat game with 1 hour turns... if your in it please vote cancel, cause we all have to sleep eventually right? And once we do, we'll get booted from the game

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Migraine (857

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01 Feb 26 UTC

Thoughts on Gobble-Earth

Not really anything specific, just wondering what most people think of the variant. I know it’s not well-balanced, but to be honest there are much worse variants out there.

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Flame (1073

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17 Jan 26 UTC
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Napoleonic Redux Variant

Hi!!! What about to do a REDUX-variation for Napoleonic? With neutrals powers (sc) and possibly holding neutral units? It will be very interesting,I suppose. I have already written to the author Firehawk. Let's see what he will answer. And do you think about this idea?

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TheodricTheGreat (1306

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27 Oct 25 UTC

The Treaty of Verdun

I've heard that it is incredibly hard to make a good map for around three players for instance, the 1066 makes the Norwegians so powerful but somehow the 843: Treaty of Verdun seems like it is almost perfectly balanced. How is this possible? Looking at the map it is quite hard to see symmetry but yet it still works. What makes the Treaty of Verdun different?

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CoffeeAndKeyboards (1428

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22 Jan 26 UTC
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Rat Wars Addiction

Please someone just cure my rat wars addiction I can't stop playing Rat Wars it's my weekly fix of dopamine at this point

12 replies

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Rock Stone (1054

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26 Jan 26 UTC

Playing against bots

I read the Help section on this but can't seem to find where I choose to play against bots. Any help appreciated.

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David Hood (976

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24 Jan 26 UTC

January 2026 Deadline News from DBN

January 2026 edition of Deadline News from the Diplomacy Broadcast Network has just been released. Check out an interview with DBN producer Hal Schild about his work for the network behind the scenes, the yearly check-in with NADF President Katie Gray about the state of the hobby in North America, and headlines from around the world of Diplomacy.
https://youtu.be/Tan0OdhZDw8?si=EnhM1ieRkr0Bfj8M

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Nuerginator (1109

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22 Jan 26 UTC

Missing/Lost Three Kingdoms Map?

According to the Wikipedia page for Diplomacy, there was supposedly a variant called "Diplomacy of the Three Kingdoms". Based on the Three Kingdoms in Ancient China, it was created by Edi Birsan to introduce the basic ideas of the main game to a Chinese audience with a setting more close to their own historical experience. I can't find this game online, and the map isn't on this site. I was wondering if anyone knew where I could play it!

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JBFroome (1135

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03 Jan 26 UTC

Game Limits and Hot Join

Hello all,
I am new to the platform but I long time Diplomacy Enjoyer. I noticed that I can only join 2 new games having played less than 20 phases. But there does not seem to be a limit to the number of open positions I am allowed to join. Is this intentional?
I appreciate the opportunity to join more games and increase my phases played, but I want to know if I will be able to join more new games once I reach the 20 phase count. Any insight would be appreciated.

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Anon (??

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18 Jan 26 UTC

Join Pirates! Bring your own rum!

Six more needed for Pirates! https://vdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=65520

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Anon (??

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18 Jan 26 UTC

Join Pirates! Bring your own rum!

Six more needed for Pirates! https://vdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=65520

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