I am in agreement with Ruffy, it's time to get going on games 7 and 8. I've just signed up for both.

I'm also in that camp. We've got 9 more games to start. These shouldn't be dragging out at the slowest allowable pace. I just ask everyone to give an honest effort to shorten their time impacts. Love how fast the FoW tournament is moving!

Perhaps we speed up the phases?

We could do that, but the problem is not the two day phases as much as that some players continue to drag out the build and retreat phases with 'saved' orders no matter how many times this gets mentioned. Frequently this is an act of petulance based on events in the game. I don't want to refer to specifics because of anonymity, but we've had this in all six games so far. Doing this for movement phases is one thing. There's just not that much to think about for retreats and builds. It's the same guys game after game. At some point I'm simply going to block all players using this tactic, and encourages others to do the same. This is noting more than exploitation of the schedule as a strategic gimmick meant to slow the pace of the game down and create disinterest in the games. We will never finish this event at this pace, which appears to be the objective of some people. So if you don't want to play, GTFO, and let the long list of standby players in.

Amen, unless there name is Robert Lee, then they're not allowed to play. : ]

i'm in in 7 and 8.

gameID=30920

Just saying, Russia, the last vote on that extension was placed because it was 2h short of deadline and you had no orders, as a benefit of the doubt (and general game quality with CDs) thing - under the expectation you'd be reasonable and allow the turn to flip as soon as you could get orders in.

http://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=30920#gamePanel

We should have a discussion before continuing into games 7 and 8. Players are consistently exploiting the game schedule for punitive reasons. It's still going on in both active games now, and less than half of the roster have signed up for the new games. It's time we ended this attempted tournament, and found players who sincerely wish to play.

1) Games 7 & 8 are waiting for half a dozen players to join. If you are doing well enough that you're entering 20+ orders for both active games, and life prevents you from entering a few more for the next game in line, then please PM me to let me know. I am not a factor in the active games, anonymity will not be impacted in any meaningful way. If you prefer, PM a third party and ask them to PM me.

If you are not currently entering a ton of orders in BOTH the active games, then it's time to join at least game 7. If it doesn't start reasonably soon, I will explore filling the spots with replacements. Again, simply send me a PM if you legitimately need the time, within the spirit of pre-tournament agreements.


2) Multiple players are considering dropping out of the tournament due to the pace mirroring tectonic plate movement. Players have been asked -- politely and impolitely, multiple times by multiple people -- to honor the ready-up rule. It's not happening. We all know that sometimes you need the full duration, blah blah life. That's understood. However, if you are routinely unable to ready orders, particularly retreats and builds, please consider dropping out and seeking a replacement.

If you are routinely able to ready retreats and builds and are not doing so anyway, then please leave the tournament.

Bump. Not one player has joined 7 or 8 since I posted the above, and not one has PMed me.

Give a shout if you need a fill in

Thanks Samj, you're added to the list.

I see you still need 5 players? I can fill in as well if necessary.

Thank you BubbaRoss. You're also on the list. Ideally we will go on with the players already playing, but it's looking like some replacements may be needed.

Most certainly. It's not a favourable position to take over from someone midway through a tournament, yet top priority should be the continuation of the tournament. If this is the only way to see through the remaining games, i'd be glad to help out.

Though if there are going to be 6/7 replacements: How about we get our own separate tournament ranking? ;-)

If there's going to be (1/3)+ replacements, I'd be on board for scrapping the whole thing and starting again. Maybe going with 3-5 games at a time rather than 2, since the issue is quite apparently 'the whole tourney taking too long' rather than 'too much happening at once'.

Perhaps ditto mouse's comment though I believe I would prefer to withdraw from some other tourneys waiting in the wings of so, namely Ancient Med v2.

... if* so...

I play in game 5 and 6 when will start other games?

As soon as everyone joins them and nations are shuffled.

We are up to 10 having joined games 7 and 8, maybe it would help to find out who has already joined so that we can ask the remaining five if they are waiting for games 5 and 6 to finish or if they would prefer to be replaced. I have already joined games 7 and 8.

Echoing bozo's thoughts. Let's get a roll call, and punt the others. I'm fine to start again or continue on. Eki83 has this thing locked up, so I'm content to give it to him and start over with committed players. But I'm happy to play on and make him earn it too.

Roll call below. Please cut and paste, add your name, and repost if you're signed up for games 7 and 8.

Known World Tournament Status:

1. RUFFHAUS 8 - Signed up for games 7 & 8

Here as a replacement if necessary... won't add myself as a number yet until we see I am needed.

Known World Tournament Status:

1. RUFFHAUS 8 - Signed up for games 7 & 8
2. bozo - Signed up for games 7 & 8

Known World Tournament Status:

1. RUFFHAUS 8 - Signed up for games 7 & 8
2. bozo - Signed up for games 7 & 8
3. Eki - Signed up for games 7 & 8

1. RUFFHAUS 8 - Signed up for games 7 & 8
2. bozo - Signed up for games 7 & 8
3. Eki - Signed up for games 7 & 8
4. Amby - Signed up for game 7

Samj can take over from me. I'm KWorlded out by now.

I will let Doc decide that. There may be others ahead of me on the list of replacements first. Dr, if you need to me to join just let me know. But I won't join until then so I don't take someone else's spot