The back story for KW901 would be pretty cool though; it's 901 AD you have a map of the world as you know it, but who is controls what territory is beyond your knowledge. Information trickles through to you about barbarian hordes on the farthest edge of the known world. Do you have what it takes to establish an empire that shines a light in a dark unknowable universe?

Known World 901: 2
Modern: 1

The updated WW4 map.

Known World 901: 2
Modern: 1
WW4: 1

Hey kaner, you said "add your variant or add your +1".... you didn't say that advertising was allowed! :)

Known World 901: 3
Modern: 1
WW4: 1

Known world 901 - I'd also like to see someone do an American exploration one.

Known World 901: 4
Modern: 1
WW4: 1

What sort of American exploration do you have in mind there Alcuin? The initial indigenous expansion or the european colonisation?

I know it isn't one of the more popular ones, but I love playing the Greek Diplomacy map! Always been a fan of ancient Greece/Rome civilizations so it's a joy for me to play. Not to mention go Sparta! :D

Known World 901: 4
Modern: 1
WW4: 1
Greek Diplomacy: 1

WW4

(Greek Diplomacy was my second choice)

Known World 901: 4
Modern: 1
WW4: 2
Greek Diplomacy: 1

Since this is purely out of interest:

KW901 together with this tweak:
people is only able to send & receive messages to the players that they come in contact with, when they are in contact with, namely, those visible within the foggy border.
This should be due to the impossibility of sending ambassadors thousands miles away and having them back alive in the same season.

That would result in both partial information (FoW) and partial press.


Known World 901: 5
Modern: 1
WW4: 2
Greek Diplomacy: 1

The tweek that you're referring to is actually pretty cool when put in play. The guy running around here talking about maps that he designs (but never plays on) has a variant called Explore, which uses that same concept. I adds an element of urgency to making contact with players that is not necessarily conquest based, and really puts a premium on diplomatic interaction. It's almost like a gunboat game that evolves into a regular game as it goes along. Very cool.

I was thinking of on with outsiders arriving... Possibly Picts/Armoricans/Irish in first wave, then Norsemen and Yupiuk/Innuit (and perhaps Japanese and Chinese plus a massive increase in Athabaskans, Utes and Apaches) then English, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedes, French and Russians .

Probably to make it manageable it'd have to be colonialism from 1400 onward with Norwegians, English and Basques in first wave then in 1500 a free-for all)

is it just me or does anyone find it "funny" to have a game titled "Known World" suddenly changed to Fog of war? The "known world" is now a lot of unknown... not that it would play badly, it's just humorous is all!

Known World 901: 5
Modern: 1
WW4: 2
Greek Diplomacy: 1
Imperial II: 1

fyi, several people here at Vdip are playing the latest game of Explore! Nothing else like it for certain! Anyone want to tackle that, I am happy to help them (but it simply is not possible to automate though I am working with someone who is attempting to do so, or at least most of it)
http://www.freewebs.com/tomahaha/

and yes, I played WW4 many times (even won a few of those times)
please don't spread unfounded lies when you have no need to do so here...

Known World 901: 5
Modern: 1
WW4: 2
Greek Diplomacy: 2 Think about betting in a fog of war setting
Imperial II: 1

Known World 901: 5
Modern: 2
WW4: 2
Greek Diplomacy: 2
Imperial II: 1
Haven: 1

Known World 901: 5
Modern: 1
WW4: 2
Greek Diplomacy: 2
Imperial II: 2

Known World 901: 5
Modern: 3
WW4: 2
Greek Diplomacy: 2
Imperial II: 2
Haven: 1

I would LOVE to see KW901 and WWIV done as FoW, but if I only have one vote, since those variants are getting votes, I'll go with American Empire IV. I also love the press tweak that Decima Legio brings up!

So, when a prolific developer starts this thread "purely out of interest", that means this will happen, right? Right?!?

Known World 901: 5
Modern: 3
WW4: 2
Greek Diplomacy: 2
Imperial II: 2
Haven: 1
Fall of the American Empire IV: 1

Known World 901: 5
Modern: 3
WW4: 2
Greek Diplomacy: 2
Imperial II: 2
Fall of the American Empire IV: 2
Haven: 1

Known World 901: 5
Modern: 4
WW4: 2
Greek Diplomacy: 2
Imperial II: 2
Fall of the American Empire IV: 2
Haven: 1

Known World 901: 5
Modern: 4
WW4: 3
Greek Diplomacy: 2
Imperial II: 2
Fall of the American Empire IV: 2
Haven: 1

WWIV +1

Known World 901: 5
Modern: 4
WW4: 3
Greek Diplomacy: 2
Imperial II: 2
Fall of the American Empire IV: 2
Haven: 1

Known World 901: 5
Modern: 4
WW4: 4
Greek Diplomacy: 2
Imperial II: 2
Fall of the American Empire IV: 2
Haven: 1

There was a mistake in editing from earlier...
The total should be...

Known World 901: 5
Modern: 4
WW4: 5
Greek Diplomacy: 2
Imperial II: 2
Fall of the American Empire IV: 2
Haven: 1