"Completing the encirclement of Iran.
- Improving the encirclement of Russia and of China as well."
These are the 2
I don't agree with most. The USA/ Europe don't want to start a fight, but most obviously aren't interested in controlling Afghanistan. If they were they would already control it. People just see the fact we're at war and don't look closely enough, the amount of men we committed to Afghanistan was pathetic, if we had the desire to control it we'd send in mass forces and just stampede our way through. If we intended to attack Russia we would have done it years ago, as I said before we wouldn't wait for someone to build themselves up before striking as that would be plain dumb.
It's intriguing to see how 2 people effectively on the same side can argue such different points. This is why you will rarely get a true majority belief as within each major argument there are many smaller ones. This is why true democracy is so hard to achieve. Also the average person switches side whenever the side they're on upsets them, which is just pathetic. You will never agree with everything a group says which is why votes need to be done for every specific points, however this isn't feasible so you have to accept compromise.
"- Making war in order to make money.
- Making war in order to test new weaponry in reality.
- Making war in order to give a common enemy to the US population so that it is distracted from the fact that there is more and more poverty in the USA."
In these points there is some truth, however they are not "making" war, they are simply getting involved in wars that aren't theirs to be involved in. This is partly for those reasons above, but it is also because people think as we are more developed we should help them fix their problems. I am of the belief that these atrocities must happen in other countries for them to finally reach the stage of development we enjoy. If someone does your work for you because you don't understand it, you won't be able to deal with it when the problem arises again. I think developed countries should stick to managing themselves, sadly the majority of people won't accept this and complain if we do nothing thus governments get involved in wars sometimes they don't want to be in just to satisfy the public. We didn't get to our stage of development without some atrocities in our history, no country can, so why do we try to progress these could tries before they are ready? In my opinion this will hold them in their undeveloped state for longer. Yes, I am saying that some people have to be killed/displaced before things get better. If you can point out a country that developed without this I'd love to see it.
I am really enjoying this discussion, but I think some people are doing personal attacks on people. If you think someones point of view is wrong feel free to voice yours, however try not to call people names please as we are not children. I enjoy civilised discussions not slating matches.
Once again and as always thanks for replying and I hope we get to keep talking!